#include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
int main() {
	string s, c;
	cin >> c;
	getchar();
	getline(cin, s);
	for (int i = 0; i < c.size(); i++) {
		c[i] = tolower(c[i]);
	}
	for (int i = 0; i < s.size(); i++) {
		s[i] = tolower(s[i]);
	}
	c = ' ' + c + ' ';
	s = ' ' + s + ' ';
	if (s.find(c) == string::npos) {
		cout << "-1";
		return 0;
	}
	int firstpos = s.find(c);
	int pos = firstpos;
	int ans = 0;
	while (pos != string::npos) {
		ans++;
		pos = s.find(c, pos + 1);
	}
	cout << ans << " " << firstpos;
	return 0;
}