#include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
int main() {
	int position,first,ans=0;
	string a;
	string b;

	getline(cin,a);
	getline(cin,b);
	/*cout<<a.length()<<endl;
    cout<<b.length()<<endl;*/
	/*for(int i=0;i<a.length();i++){
        if(a[i]>='A'&&a[i]<='Z')a[i]=a[i]+32;
    }
    for(int i=0;i<b.length();i++){
        if(b[i]>='A'&&b[i]<='Z')b[i]=b[i]+32;
    }*/
	for (int i=0; i<a.length(); ++i) {
		a[i]=tolower(a[i]);
	}
	for (int i=0; i<b.length(); ++i) {
		b[i]=tolower(b[i]);
	}
	a=' '+a+' ';
	b=' '+b+' ';
	if (b.find(a)==string::npos) {
		cout<<-1<<endl;
	} else {
		first=b.find(a);
		position=b.find(a);
		while (position!=string::npos) {
			ans++;
			position=b.find(a,position+1);
		}
		cout<<ans<<" "<<first<<endl;
	}
	return 0;
}